Biographic28,821
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Name
ឈ្មោះ
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Say Chouly
សាយ ជូលី
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Other Name
ឈ្មោះហៅក្រៅ
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Say Youlay
សាយ យូឡាយ
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Gender
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ភេទ
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ប្រុស
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Status
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Alive
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ស្ថានភាពគ្រួសារ
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នៅរស់
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CBIO ID
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I03041
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លេខយោងឯកសារប្រវត្តិរូប
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អាយ០៣០៤១
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Source Interview
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KCI0069 20021114, Tuol Dei village, Krala commune, Kampong Siem district, Kampong Cham province. Interviewed by Chuong Sophearith. Notes: Interviewed with Say Chouly,45, biography owner.
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ប្រភពនៃឯកសារ/បទសម្ភាសន៍
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ខេស៊ីអាយ០០៦៩ ២០០២១១១៤, ភូមិទួលដី ឃុំក្រឡា ស្រុកកំពង់សៀម ខេត្តកំពង់ចាម។ សម្ភាសន៍ដោយជួង សុភារិទ្ធ។ កំណត់សំគាល់ៈ ជួបសម្ភាសន៍ជាមួយឈ្មោះ សាយ ជូលី អាយុ៤៥ឆ្នាំ ម្ចាស់ប្រវត្តិរូបផ្ទាល់។
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Date of Birth
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[ Present aged: 45 year-old]
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ថ្ងៃ-ខែ-ឆ្នាំ កំណើត
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អាយុបច្ចុប្បន្ន ៤៥ឆ្នាំ។
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Home Village
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030609?? Kampong Cham, Kampong Siem, Krala, Tuolde
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ទីកន្លែងកំណើត
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០៣០៦០៩?? ខេត្ដកំពង់ចាម ស្រុកកំពង់សៀម ឃុំក្រឡា ភូមិ
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Join KR
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April 18, 1974.
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ការចូលរួមសកម្មភាពក្នុងសម័យខ្មែរក្រហម
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១៨ មេសា ១៩៧៤។
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Reason to Join KR
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Volunteer.
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មូលហេតុចូលរួមសកម្មភាពក្នុងសម័យខ្មែរក្រហម
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ស្ម័គ្រចិត្ដ។
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Reason to Join KR Other
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he wanted to release himself from power oppression of traitor.
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មូលហេតុចូលរួមសកម្មភាពក្នុងសម័យខ្មែរក្រហម
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ចង់រំដោះខ្លួននឹងវណ្ណៈក្រីក្រឱ្យរួចផុតពីការជិះជាន់ពីអំណាច របស់ ពួកក្បត់។
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DK ORG Unit 75-79
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Ministry of Commerce Unit, Phnom Penh.
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អង្គភាពក្នុងរបបខ្មែរក្រហម(1975-79)
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អង្គភាពក្រសួងពាណិជ្ជកម្ម, ភ្នំពេញ។
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KR Rank(1975-79)
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He was a driver.
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តួនាទីក្នុងរបបខ្មែរក្រហម(1975-79)
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អ្នកបើកឡាន។
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DK Zone 75-79
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Central(12), Phnom Penh.
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ទីតាំងភូមិសាស្រ្តក្នុងរបបខ្មែរក្រហម(1975-79)
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មជ្ឈិម(១២), ភ្នំពេញ។
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Superior
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1774, Pek Chorn was by Chief of Group. Kuy Thuon alias Thuch and Ke Pok were chiefs of northern zone
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អ្នកដឹកនាំ
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ប៉េក ជន មាននាទីជា មេក្រុម។ ហៀង ហៅឡៃជាមេឃុំ។ ប៉ិក សេ្រងជាប្រធានតំបន់នៅកំពង់ ចាម។ តា កុយធួន ហៅធុច និង
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Associates
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San Seng, Say Heang joined KR revolution with Say Chouly.
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អ្នកពាក់ព័ន្ធដ៏ទៃទៀត
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សន សេង, សាយហៀង ចូលរួមបដិវត្ដន៍ជាមួយ សាយជូលី។
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Summary
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Say Chouly alias Say Youlay, male, alive, male, 45(Biography owner). Ly lives in Tuol Dei village, Krala commune, Kampong Siem district, Kampong Cham province.
Say Meas was Ly៌s father, and Chhuon Sok was Ly៌s mother. Ly had 9 siblings, 3 of 6 boys. They were Say Im, Say Heang, Say Huoy, Say An, Say Eang, Say San, Say Naret and Say Yulay. 5 of them were died because of dealing with the old tendency and living in the new village.
April 18, 1974, Ly decided to join KR revolution with San Seng, and Say Heang because of King Norodom Sihanouk៌s propaganda and Lon Nol bombardment. By the way, he wanted to release himself from power oppression of traitor. Ly was assigned to run the economies at Thmor Puon. Heang alias Lai was commune chief and Sreng was a Region chief at Kampong Cham province. After that, Ly was sent by Pik Sreng to Basit Mountain for fighting against the enemy at Kap Srauv area. There, Ly was assigned to distribute the rice to soldiers in economical office zone, led by Chief of Group, Pek Chorn. Kuy Thuon alias Thuch and Ke Pok were chiefs of northern zone.
In 1975-76, Ly fled to live Phnom Penh and served as car driver at ministry of commerce. In 1977-78, Ly changed the work from internal of ministry of commerce to external. Pha was chief of Unit who response with some works when others chiefs such as Kheav Samporn, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary were absent. Ly had never seen people were killed by KR but he just heard someone said that, People were sent to build up, and never seen them again.
In 1979, there are many people were evacuated from Phnom Penh to Bantam Bang, Posat (Bavil), and Samlot. Ly was assigned to bring the rice, medicine, foodstuff to provide the workers who were fighting against with Vietnams. Ly moved from Samlot to Malai which was strongly fights area, led by Kan.
In 1980, Ly was sent to O-Smach, led by Roeung. Ly entered the sanctuary in 1980 before hearing about Sun Sen was killed. In 1993, he returned home village.
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សេចក្ដីសង្ខេបបទសម្ភាស៏
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សាយ ជូលី ហៅ សាយយូឡាយ ភេទប្រុស នៅរស់ អាយុ៤៥ឆ្នាំ (ម្ចាស់ប្រវត្ដិរូប)។ លីរស់នៅភូមិ ទួលដី ឃុំក្រឡា ស្រុកកំពង់សៀម ខេត្ដកំពង់ចាម។ ឪពុកឈ្មោះ សាយ មាស ម្ដាយឈ្មោះ ឈួន សុខ។ លីមានបង ប្អូន៩នាក់ ស្រី៣នាក់ ប្រុស៦នាក់ ឈ្មោះសាយ អ៊ីម, សាយ ហៀង, សាយ ហួយ, សាយ អ៊័ន, សាយ អៀង, សាយ ស្ស៊័ន, សាយ ណារ៉េត និង សាយយូឡាយ។ ក្នុងចំនោមអ្នកទាំងនេះស្លាប់ អស់៥នាក់ ដោយសារអ្នកទាំងនោះជាប់និន្នាការនៅក្នុងសង្គម ចាស់ ហើយទៅនៅភូមិថ្មី។ ថៃ្ងទី ១៨ ខែមេសា ឆ្នាំ ១៩៧៤, លីបានចូលរួមបដិវត្ដន៍ជាមួយ ឈ្មោះ សន សេង, សាយហៀង ដោយសារមានការឃោសនា របស់សមេ្ដចនរោត្ដមសីហនុ និងការទម្លាក់គ្រាប់បែករបស់លន់ នល់។ ម៉្យាងទៀតលីចង់រំដោះខ្លួននឹងវណ្ណៈក្រីក្រឱ្យរួចផុតពីការជិះ ជាន់ពីអំណាចរបស់ពួកក្បត់។ លីកាន់ខាង សេដ្ឋកិច្ចនៅឯថ្មពួន។ ហៀង ហៅឡៃជាមេឃុំ នៅទីនោះ, ឈ្មោះ សេ្រងជាប្រធាន តំបន់នៅកំពង់ ចាម។ ក្រោយមកទើបតា ប៉ិកសេ្រង បញ្ចូន លីទៅភ្នំបាសិតទៅវាយជួរកប់ស្រូវ។ នៅទីនេះ លី មាននាទីជាអ្នកចែកចាយអង្ការឱ្យយោធាក្នុង មន្ទីរសេដ្ឋកិច្ច ភូមិភាគ ដែលមាន ប៉េក ជន មាននាទីជា មេក្រុម។ តា កុយធួន ហៅធុច និង កែពកជា គណៈភូមិភាគឧត្ដរ។ ១៩៧៥១៩៧៦ លីមករស់នៅភ្នំពេញ ហើយធ្វើការជាអ្នក បើកឡាននៅក្រសួងពាណិជ្ជកម្មក្នុង ប្រទេស។ ឆ្នាំ ១៩៧៧៧៨ លីផ្លាស់ទៅនៅក្រសួងពាណិជ្ជកម្មក្រៅប្រទេសវិញ។ ឈ្មោះ ផា ជា ប្រធានអង្គភាព ដែលចាំមើលការខុសត្រូវជំនួសមេៗ ដូចជាខៀវ សំផន, នួន ជា, និងអៀងសារី។ លីពុំដែលឃើញ ខែ្មរ ក្រហមសម្លាប់ប្រជាជនផ្ទាល់ភ្នែកទេ គ្រាន់តែឮថាហៅទៅរៀន រួចហើយក៏បាត់ ដំណឹង។ ឆ្នាំ ១៩៧៩ ខែ្មរក្រហមជម្លៀសមនុស្សពីភ្នំពេញ ទៅនៅបាត់ ដំបង ពោធិ៍សាត់(ស្រុកបវិល) ក្រោយមកទៀតទើបបញ្ជូនទៅ សំឡូត៍។ ខែ្មរក្រហមឱ្យលីបើឡានដឹកអង្ការ ថ្នាំពេទ្យ ស្បៀង យកទៅ ឱ្យកម្មករដែលវាយ តទល់ជាមួយពួកយួន។ បន្ទាប់ ពីសំឡូតមកក៏បន្ដទៅម៉ាឡៃដែលជាតំបន់ វាយតបតខ្លាំង។ ឈ្មោះ កនជាអ្នកគ្រប់គ្រងនៅទីនេះ។ ឆ្នាំ ១៩៨០ លីមកជញ្ជូនគ្រាប់នៅឯអូរស្មាច់ ដែលគ្រប់គ្រង ដោយ រឿង។ លីចូលជំរំ ឆ្នាំ ១៩៩១ ពីមុនឮថាសុនសេន គេ សម្លាប់។ ឆ្នាំ១៩៩៣ គាត់ធ្វើមាតុភូមិនិវត្ដន៍វិញ។
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The Prevention and Punishment of the Crimes of Genocide
By Youk Chhang
The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide stands alongside the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as one of the key pillars of international human rights law, and for this Human Rights Day in 2022, I want to highlight the critical importance of the responsibility to prevent atrocity crimes, which includes genocide. When atrocity crimes occur, there is an immediate need to stop these atrocious acts, followed by the equally urgent tasks of documenting, investigating, and ultimately prosecuting the perpetrators. However, from 1948 to today, we have not given enough attention to true prevention.
Atrocity crimes do not occur in a vacuum. There is a long chain of events and conditions that precede atrocity crimes. Isolation, segregation, and discrimination frequently, if not always, precede the rationalization of atrocity crimes against a group of people. And before people are discriminated against, they must be dehumanized. The process of dehumanization depends upon rationalizing hatred and distrust, and these processes are precipitated by misinformation, fueled by uninformed biases, stereotypes, and exploitative actors. They are also frequently dependent upon the disintegration, corruption, or lack of development of critical institutions, in particular institutions dedicated to dialogue and education. It is here that we must dedicate our greatest attention.
Since 1948, we have made great strides toward taking actions that interrupt, mitigate, and to a very limited extent, punish the chief perpetrators of atrocity crimes; however, these actions are not preventative but reactive in nature. No atrocities crime trial has ever prevented the next genocide, and no sanctions or punishment can bring back the dead or undo the trauma that extends across multiple generations. Indeed, the trauma of atrocity crimes in the distant past are often the forgotten seeds for the next wave of violence and inhumanity of the future.
If we are to truly adopt strategies that are effective, far reaching, and decisive in preventing atrocity crimes, then our priorities must be re-oriented to the opposite end of the spectrum, where the seeds of the next genocide are cultivated. Our responsibility in complying with foundational human rights documents should be measured not solely by our success at responding, investigating, and prosecuting atrocity crimes, but by our efforts in supporting institutions, initiatives, and actions that have a positive influence in preventing all forms of inhumanity. The most effective strategy at preventing the next genocide is centered on actions and policies that interrupt and reduce the risk of escalation at the earliest stages of inhumanity.
Cambodia recently removed human rights days from public calendars. I think we should reconsider this collective decision. Cambodia has achieved extraordinary success in its genocide education programme, which is the essence of atrocity crimes prevention. And so, to capitalize on this success and Cambodia’s regional and even global leadership in this area, we should hold an annual dialogue on the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. As the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC) closes its doors, there is no better time than now to preserve Cambodia’s leadership and momentum in realizing the core objectives of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
The Documentation Center of Cambodia (DC-Cam) is proud of the support it has given to the ECCC’s work, which was fundamental to giving victims an opportunity to participate in the justice process and realize some sense of closure from the Khmer Rouge genocide. DC-Cam is also eager to support an annual conference on the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. As we commemorate this Human Rights Day, we would be mindful to recognize our fundamental human rights documents are not only universal commitments, but also standards for evaluating the kind of world we are leaving for the next generation.
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Youk Chhang is Executive Director of the Documentation Center of Cambodia. The Center dedicating to Justice, Memory, and Healing for survivors of the Khmer Rouge genocide.
Photo above: Children at Angkor Wat, 1979. After the collapse of the Khmer Rouge regime on 7 January 1979, hundreds of thousands of children were left orphaned. From 1975 to 1979, the Khmer Rouge led Cambodia into tragedy causing the deaths of over 2 million people. Although two millions were killed, five millions more survived to tell their story. The perpetrators of these crimes also survived. Photo: Documentation Center of Cambodia Archives.
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